Hello,

While we take a rest over the summer, we’re sharing some remastered episodes from Season One, chosen by listeners.

In this episode, I speak to journalist and broadcaster Remona Aly about her life-changing decision to call off an engagement, and how it echoed through the years to teach her about forgiveness, faith and empathy.

This is such a special one for me - I went to school with Remona, and I think you can hear our joy at reconnecting after a couple of decades, and feeling so at home in the process. We cover all of human life here: buckle in.

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Katherine

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From the transcript

Remona Aly:
... You can actually feel the heartbreaking. It's actually, actually feel the cracks, you felt the cracks. And I thought I knew pain. I thought I knew pain? And then, pain's just like, "Yeah? No, this is how it feels. This is how it can really feel."

Katherine May: That's life for you.

Remona Aly:
That is life. That really is.

Katherine May:
You don't know pain, lady. Yeah.

Remona Aly:
Yeah. And just watching how my friend and my sister just came out of that, and how they found the strength to come out of that, was extraordinary. And it gave me strength as well. It was kind of like a symbiotic kind of relationship going on. We were kind of, I was supporting, and then she was supporting me, and it was... yeah, it was extraordinary.

Katherine May: It's redemptive.

Remona Aly:
Extraordinary. This empathy of wintering is extraordinary.

Katherine May:
It's a wonderful thing. This has been the best conversation that I've had for years with anyone. I feel like I've got absolute chills. It's just so beautiful. And I just-

Remona Aly: Me too.

Katherine May:
... Yeah. It's really lovely. We could just sit here and have a little cry now, couldn't we, afterwards.

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